Mike Lindell, the controversial CEO of MyPillow, debated 12-year-old content creator Knowa De Brasco about the 2020 presidential election results.

Lindell shaved his mustache to “go undercover at the [Democratic National Convention] and deliver FrankSpeech viewers undercover footage.”

On August 21, he was filmed at the United Center wandering around in a fedora and arguing with De Brasco, who supports the vice president.

During this argument, the MyPillow CEO insisted that the 2020 presidential election was stolen in Georgia because hundreds of thousands of votes were left uncounted, a claim that is not supported by any evidence.

He even told a story about a friend he claimed ran for office in Georgia but did not reveal her last name or identify her.

“But where’s the proof,” De Brasco asked. “You want me to take your word for it, right?”

Lindell claimed that “257,000 votes—this happened last week, a judge ruled in Georgia—are missing from the 2020 election.”

“So your source is ‘trust me, bro,'” the content creator replied sarcastically.

“The source is in your papers in Georgia,” Lindell argued. “You need to read your news.”

Before De Brasco left, he told the CEO he did not give him “any last names” and was “full of c—.”

De Brasco was unfazed by the interaction with Lindell. 

He posted a video of the exchange on X, captioning it, “Mike Lindell is an idiot as expected.”

He told a reporter who interviewed him afterward that he was alright and noted that the CEO “provided no facts” and “no sources.”

“He refused to give me the last name – he said for privacy – but elected officials provide their last names if they want the votes, so I’m confused as to why his source was ‘trust me, bro,'” he added.

“Mike Lindell just got rolled by a 12-year-old,” the reporter stated.

In March, MyPillow faced a court-ordered eviction from a warehouse in Minnesota, but Lindell asserted that they are still doing well financially.

Lindell claimed that this eviction is merely a formality related to a mutual agreement between himself and the warehouse’s owner to vacate this property, which he said was last used by MyPillow in spring 2023. Court records say MyPillow owes the warehouse’s owner $217,489 in past-due rent. 

Last week, the CEO was ordered to pay $4,508 in attorney’s fees from his management company, Lindell Management LLC, to the software developer Robert Zeidman, who proved that the election data he presented did not show election fraud. 

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