Winona Ryder, who was once engaged to Johnny Depp back in the 90s, doesn’t know what to make of his estranged wife Amber Heard‘s allegations of domestic violence.

Winona Ryder On Johnny Depp

Ryder has been having something of a comeback over the last few years – most recently with her starring turn in forthcoming Netflix original series Stranger Things. Since she was once in a high-profile relationship with Depp, who is now going through a very public divorce with Heard, Ryder has been unable to avoid questions about the circumstances surrounding the split.

What does she think about Depp being accused of abusing Heard? While Ryder emphatically stated that the Pirates of the Caribbean actor never laid a hand on her or showed particularly violent tendencies, she also noted that she can’t know what happened in his relationship with Heard.

“I can only speak from my own experience, which was wildly different than what is being said,” Ryder told Time magazine. “He was never, never that way towards me. Never abusive at all towards me. I only know him as a really good, loving, caring guy who is very, very protective of the people that he loves.”

“I wasn’t there. I don’t know what happened. I’m not calling anyone a liar. I’m just saying, it’s difficult and upsetting for me to wrap my head around it. Look, it was a long time ago, but we were together for four years, and it was a big relationship for me,” she added. “Imagine if someone you dated when you were—I was 17 when I met him—was accused of that. It’s just shocking. I have never seen him be violent toward a person before.”

Ryder’s Stranger Things will premiere in full on Netflix July 15.

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