‘The Only Thing That Matters Is Winning,’ Trump Told White House Aide Hope Hicks, Didn’t Care About His Legacy

Several witnesses, such as former Attorney General William Barr, have testified that they informed former President Donald Trump that there was no evidence of extensive election fraud that would have changed the results of the election. 

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The final hearing of the January 6 committee featured testimony from former White House communications director Hope Hicks.

“I was becoming increasingly concerned that we were damaging his legacy,” Hicks told the committee.

Hicks continued, “He said something along the lines of: Nobody will care about my legacy if I lose. So, that won’t matter. The only thing that matters is winning.”

Rep. Stephanie Murphy (D-Florida) stated that Hicks tried to recommend that Trump tell his supporters to protest non-violently, but “he refused.”

In this testimony, Hicks said “he” was Eric Herschmann, Trump’s former White House lawyer. 

“I didn’t speak to the president about this directly, but I communicated with people like Eric Herschmann that it was my view that it was important that the president put out some kind of message in advance of the event,” Hicks testified.

“Mr. Herschmann said that he had made the same recommendation directly to the president and that he had refused,” Hicks stated.

At the meeting, members of the January 6 committee approved four referrals to the Department of Justice on Trump, including conspiracy to defraud the United States and obstruction of official proceedings.