Sean Penn has opened up about his current relationship with his ex-wife Robin Wright. 

Penn and Wright started dating in 1990 and had two children together, Dylan, 26, and Hopper, 24. They got married in 1996, but ultimately got divorced in 2010.

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In a recent interview on Marc Maron‘s WTF Podcast, Penn explains that communication, especially when it came to parenting, between the two was not good, but it was better off that way. “We don’t have a lot of conversation. We don’t not get along,” he said. “We have very separate relationships with our kids at this point and it’s better that way because they are making their own decisions. As it turned out she and I did not share the same ethical views on parenting including the continuing parenting of adult children.”

He explains that despite they are both available to their children, they have always had conflicting ethics in parenting. “It was better for her to be entirely whatever she is and available to them and they love their mother and they have that relationship and for me to be entirely available but… we’re always going to have conflicting ethics.”

However, despite the couple’s rocky relationship, their children are doing well. “That’s going great. They’re amazing people,” he says, “They’re both acting and modeling in an industry that I’m not very interested in, but they seem to have fun with it. I’m supportive of whatever my kids do that keeps them happy and healthy, period.”

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Penn has tried being in several serious relationships, from Elizabeth McGovern, Madonna and most recently Charlize Theron, who called off their engagement in 2015. However, he has not given up on the idea of falling in love. He says, “I’m never going to take a position that I’m closed off to love. People falling in love with each other is a great, great thing.”

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