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Matt Johnson On ‘Operation Avalanche,’ Guerrilla Filmmaking, SXSW [EXCLUSIVE VIDEO]

Matt Johnson wrote, directed and stars in Operation Avalanche, the faux documentary about the faking of the 1969 moon landing that premiered at SXSW this year.

Matt Johnson On ‘Operation Avalanche’

Operation Avalanche follows Johnson and Owen Williams playing fictitious versions of themselves – 1960s Ivy League-educated film buffs who get recruited by the CIA versions of themselves. In the fake doc, the two are assigned with the task of uncovering a Russian spy that’s infiltrated NASA with designs on delaying America’s space program from getting a man on the moon. When they realize that they can’t halt the mole’s plans, and that NASA will surely lose the space race, Johnson and Williams get the CIA onboard with faking a moon landing behind NASA’s back for the sake of national pride.

In order to make this ambitious narrative movie on a limited budget, the real Johnson had to get creative as a filmmaker and actually infiltrate NASA.

“Anything that we shot in the real world we tried to do like it was a documentary with people who didn’t know that this was on camera, and definitely didn’t know that this was a narrative movie,” Johnson told uInterview in an exclusive interview. “And, we did that because we didn’t have a lot of money, so we couldn’t hire other actors, we couldn’t hire extras. So when we shoot at NASA ,we really are there undercover, just like our characters are undercover shooting at NASA. So the people we’re talking to are real NASA staff.”

For Johnson, there were ultimately two benefits to shooting Operation Avalanche with some legally questionable guerrilla filmmaking tactics: it was interesting and it was inexpensive.

“It’s cool to have our characters and the real us in the exact same situation act the exact same time – which is you’re undercover at NASA both in the story and in real life. Like, you get a lot of interesting narrative stuff that way,” Johnson explained, adding, “But also, you just couldn’t make this movie for this amount of money unless you shot it that way. It wouldn’t be possible. Because in order to recreate NASA and fill it with actors, I mean just that alone is like 2-3 million dollars.”

Johnson was led to making this particular mock documentary from the basic premise of having a lead character that would do virtually anything for a promotion. Since the tape of the Apollo 11 moon landing is arguably the most famous of all time, it seemed apropos to make that the center of the film – and the fake film.

“The big thing about the moon landing is that it seems like it’s the high point of American culture for a lot of people. It seems to be the big one, like that’s the greatest thing America seems to have achieved in the last fifty years, and people really, really love that,” said Johnson. “I mean, essentially it was a commercial against the Soviet Union, saying that our way of running things is better than their way.”

The idea of pinning the hopes of a nation on a promise of greatness, actualized in a symbolic moment or act, is something that Johnson concedes pervades into modern American politics.

“This seems like the framework of a lot of those election campaigns is we are going to take you back to Apollo 11 when you were sitting in front of the television and everything is just perfect,” he said, adding with a laugh, “Like, ‘We are gonna beat the Soviets all over again if you elect Donald Trump as the president of the United States.'”

Erik Meers

Erik Meers is the founder and editor of uInterview.com and uSports.org. He was previously managing editor of GQ, Harper's Bazaar, Interview and Paper magazines. When he's not drowning in pop culture, he's asleep.

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