Katy Perry talked about her sexual fluidity while accepting the National Equality Award at the Human Rights Campaign gala on Saturday.


The pop star spoke about her first single, “I Kissed A Girl,” and how it started a conversation nationwide. “I’m just a singer-songwriter honestly. I speak my truths and I paint my fantasies into these bite-sized pop songs. For instance, ‘I kissed a girl and I liked it,'” she said, references a lyric in her 2008 hit. “Truth be told…I did more than that.”

Perry grew up in a religious household with two pastors for parents. “When I was growing up, homosexuality was synonymous with the word ‘abomination’ and ‘hell,'” she said, adding that she later “prayed the gay away at my Jesus camp.”

Later in life, she described, she was fortunate enough to meet people from the LGBT community and some allies. “These people were nothing like I had been taught to fear. They were the most free, strong, kind, and inclusive people that I have ever met,” she said. “I stand here as real evidence for all, that no matter where you came from, it is about where you are going – that real change, real evolution, and that real perception shift can happen, if we open our minds and soften our hearts.”

See her speech at 34:58 in the video below.

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