Jesse Ventura On 'Conspiracy Theory,' Plum Island, Biological Weapons, Sarah Palin
First Jesse Ventura was a pro wrestler. Then he became governor of Minnesota. Now he's back on TV with his show, Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura, which premieres its second season on Friday, October 15, on a secret bio-weapons center on Plum Island just 75 miles from New York City.
Born as James George Janos in 1951, Ventura first served during the Vietnam War as a member of the Navy Underwater Demolition Team. He began his wrestling career in 1975, where he acquired his stage name, Jesse "The Body" Ventura; the name Jesse Ventura has stuck to him since. Inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame in 2004, he later became mayor of Brooklyn Park, Minnesota in 1991 and famously went then go on to become governor of Minnesota. Ventura has since starred in several television series and movies such as Predator, where he cast alongside Arnold Schwarzenegger in 1987. In 2003, he hosted his own MSNBC show, Jesse Ventura's America, where he often argued his opposition towards the Iraq War. He is also well known for his constant questioning of the events of 9/11.
Now, on his latest TV show, Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura, Ventura investigates the ongoing situation at the bio-weapons facility on Plum Island. "It's the most heavily populated area of the United States and to be experimenting with biological experiments on mosquitos, ticks, things like that — it just doesn't seem like a very smart place to be doing that all these years," Ventura told Uinterview exclusively.
- Q: After doing your reporting for the show, what do you think is really going at the bio-weapons facility on Plum Island? - Erik Meers
- A: Well, I think that there are a lot of things going on there that probably the public would become very frightened over, you know, over the fact that they would be testing biological things like that. The thing that I find most disturbing is that it's 75 miles from downtown Manhattan and about 80 miles from downtown Boston. It's the most heavily populated area of the United States and to be experimenting with biological experiments on mosquitos, ticks, things like that — it just doesn't seem like a very smart place to be doing that all these years.
- Q: Do you think that the average person would be shocked to know that a Nazi, Erich Traub, had been the person who set this up? - Erik Meers
- A: Oh, the creator, the godfather? Yeah. Every time I say that to people, they're stunned. Totally stunned when I say, well the godfather of Plum Island was a Nazi right underneath Hitler. He probably should have stood trial at Nuremberg.
- Q: Is he America's Mengele? - Erik Meers
- A: Not really, they all had their own things they were into. Traub was into biological weapons – ticks and mosquitos, you know, to turn them loose on an opponent or another country or a foreign country. The thing that I find disturbing about it is the fact that we are such hypocrites in this country, over the fact that we will have all these weapons and yet we think we're outraged if someone else has them.
- Q: Do you think the U.S. is violating the Geneva conventions with this facility? - Erik Meers
- A: Yeah, I think if we're dabbling in biological weapons. Let me give you an example: one of the reasons we invaded Iraq supposedly was that Saddam had chemical weapons that he used on the Kurds. Well, I'll ask you, what's napalm? That's a chemical weapon and we've been using it for 40 years. We used it tremendously in Vietnam. Now that's a chemical weapon. So how come it's okay for us to use chemical weapons but it's not okay for anyone else? I guess because we're the world power, we can dictate that.
- Q: Do you think this immense bio-industrial buildup after 9/11 is the thing that's really driving places like Plum Island? - Erik Meers
- A: Well, I don't know. They're planning on moving Plum Island out to Manhattan, Kansas, which is right in the heart of our food belt. And supposedly what they legitimately do out there is they work on animal stuff and I just don't — I would think that maybe moving it up to where Sarah Palin's from would be much safer. Somewhere in Alaska where nobody's around. I mean this is pretty dangerous stuff amongst the population.
- Q: In the show there's the suggestion that ticks from Plum Island were the source of Lyme Disease. What do you think about that? - Erik Meers
- A: Well, the first reported case was in Lyme, Connecticut, that's why they call it Lyme Disease and Lyme, Connecticut is right across the water from Plum Island. Is that circumstantial? And then you find out that Erich Traub, that was his specialty for the Nazis: ticks and mosquitos. Well, you start adding the little bits and pieces together and it kind of makes a picture, doesn't it? There you go. You don't know for certain, but on all of these conspiracies — it's basically like taking a jigsaw puzzle and throwing all the pieces on the floor. Each piece is a clue or a piece of evidence. You start to put the puzzle together — now can you complete the puzzle? Absolutely not. But like a jigsaw puzzle you can put enough pieces together where you get a good idea of what the picture is.
- Q: As an observer of politics, what do you think the biggest conspiracy theory in politics today is? - Erik Meers
- A: First of all, most of our politicians have no idea when they vote for bills what's in them. I've discovered that clearly on multiple occasions. And even the sponsors of these bills don't even know what's in them and they vote for them, not even knowing what's in it. Like we met with this congressman that is a co-sponsor of this Homeland Security bill that states unequivocally that they will build a minimum of six FEMA camps, internment camps throughout the country, and this guy, before we showed this to him, insisted to me that FEMA is not building any internment camps, that it's all a big lie. And then we confronted him to say House bill such and such, of which you're a co-sponsor, and we show him – "will build no less than six FEMA internment camps." He was stunned. Go back to Michael Moore's film [Fahrenheit 9/11] when he comes up to John Conyers, the congressman from Michigan, and asked him, "Congressman, how could you vote for the Patriot Act?" And he grabs Moore by the elbow and says, "Let me set you down, young man. We don't read any of the bills we vote on." When he said that, I almost fell out of my chair in the theater. I must've been a stupid politician – I actually read them.
- Q: There are a lot of conspiracy theories in politics today. Some people think that Carl Paladino, the Republican nominee for New York governor, is a Democratic plant. Some people said that Alvin Greene, the Democratic nominee for the Senate in South Carolina, was a Republican plant. What do you think about those theories? - Erik Meers
- A: Well I haven't looked at them, so I really couldn't answer whether they would be or wouldn't be but as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter. As long as this country continues to elect Democrats and Republicans, we're going to get the same thing we've had for 50 years or more. I don't even advocate for the third party anymore because my belief is that any third party, in order to compete, because the system is so corrupted, they will have to be corrupted in order to compete. And so therefore, instead of two-headed monster, you'll then have a three-headed one. I now advocate the abolishment of political parties. We should turn them into political action committees and not allow political parties.
- Q: What about the Tea Party? - Erik Meers
- A: It's nice that they're causing trouble because I'm a believer that dissension is the greatest form of patriotism. But I think that they're orchestrated. They've been taken over by a right-wing group of Republicans. Many of the Tea Party people are legit. But the problem is they've been infiltrated, just like the Reform Party. It happened to us. Remember when Pat Buchanan came in and got our nomination? Well, that was by design to destroy us, and it did. Oh, I think the Tea Party is there to get the Republicans to go even further right than what they are. Again, any party that would put Sarah Palin up on a pedestal will never have my support. Sarah Palin's a quitter. You know, I don't know what control they have over our media, but can you imagine if halfway through my term as an Independent, I would have quit just to go become a millionaire? What the press would have did to me? How come they gave her a pass? I've got news for the people of America: if she runs for president, make sure you're happy with the vice president because within two years, she'll quit and that person will be president.
- Q: Do you think she'll think it's hard too? - Erik Meers
- A: Too much heat or more money to be made – one of those.
- Q: Would you ever consider running for president? - Erik Meers
- A: I'll never say never, but at this time I'll tell you no. I really don't have any desire. One of the reasons is because I like my freedom and being the president's truly an oxymoron. You represent freedom but you yourself have none. And I don't think I want particularly to live that way again. I did it as governor, where you've got bodyguards around you all the time 24/7, you can never be alone hardly. And I prefer living in Mexico like I do now for half the year, I live where there's no electricity and no paved roads and I surf. I would rather do that for half the year and then the other half, I come up and raise hell doing these TV shows and then I get out of here and let you guys get the collateral damage.
- Q: What topics will you tackle next on the show? - Erik Meers
- A: We're doing a show on John F. Kennedy's murder this year, and many of the press have asked me what could you possibly bring that would be new? Well, how about a oral, audio and written confession? That's at the end of the show so you gotta watch, but we have a confession. We have someone who confessed to it on their deathbed to their son. The person's pretty prominent and he made his son promise to go public with it – the mainstream media won't touch it. In fact, 60 Minutes passed on it.
- Q: What do you hope people get out the show? - Erik Meers
- A: I hope it gives the other side of the story and lets people know that you can't necessarily trust your government. Government's made up of people and people lie, people want money, people want power and we have some sort of belief in this country that our government can't be corrupt.
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